The Lions looked, well, like the Lions. On a brighter note, our pal Mr. Arnold is signing with the Seahawks. He could be put on the "no play list" by the commissioner, spend the entire season as a Seahawk (attending meetings, practices) but not playing, and walk away with a SB ring if the birds win it all again.
off topic--shocked seattle would sign arnold. clearly he mislead our staff but with that said, good for him with a second chance. the crime is one thing, lying about it is another. time will tell.
happy with the game minus some drops and penalties.
How are you so certain Arnold “clearly” misled our staff? What was revealed in the hearing that credibly incriminated him? I watched the whole thing, but I must’ve missed it.
Clearly (supported by evidence unlike your use of clearly to apparently describe what appears to me to still only be speculation), the judge didn’t hear anything that made him feel even remotely obligated to deny bail (or require an ankle monitor) to someone otherwise charged with multiple serious / violent felonies (albeit, through a principal theory that seems to be barely hanging by a thread). That alone, given all other co-defendants are in jail pending trial, should make you seriously question whether the evidence presented at the hearing was persuasive to an objective fact-finder. The judge expressed his doubts on the record, only initially finding the minimum bar of probable cause to bring charges, which is nowhere close to the standard for establishing guilt.
Personally, I’d be surprised if this case ever even reaches trial. At this point, the prosecutor’s office probably just wants to figure out how to save face while pursuing charges against the co-defendants who are much more directly and credibly implicated.
Finally, by all accounts Arnold has otherwise conducted himself professionally and responsibly on and off the field. His character witnesses are practically unimpeachable.
i hope you are right for his sake. my clearly comment was connecting the dots when the team was 100% supporting him to when the team cut him after evidence was presented and charges were made. this has nothing to do with whether he is innocent or guilty but rather what he told the team
Or the team could have just decided they didn’t want any distractions after they realized he was facing eight felony charges. The timing of the release doesn’t make clear to me whether the substance of the hearing had much if any impact. It was only about a week between when he was charged and when he was released. It’s not like the first hearing was going to exonerate him (yet it came pretty damn close). But the hearing made everything real.
I won’t waste my breath by telling others not to read too much into preseason football.
The Lions looked, well, like the Lions. On a brighter note, our pal Mr. Arnold is signing with the Seahawks. He could be put on the "no play list" by the commissioner, spend the entire season as a Seahawk (attending meetings, practices) but not playing, and walk away with a SB ring if the birds win it all again.
Backups playing against starters.
So our 3 string against their first string and we lost by 2. And Rakestraw. Again. Mixed bag.
Dan’s next presser should be interesting. Rake’, Hass’, Saylor, TeSlaa…
off topic--shocked seattle would sign arnold. clearly he mislead our staff but with that said, good for him with a second chance. the crime is one thing, lying about it is another. time will tell.
happy with the game minus some drops and penalties.
How are you so certain Arnold “clearly” misled our staff? What was revealed in the hearing that credibly incriminated him? I watched the whole thing, but I must’ve missed it.
Clearly (supported by evidence unlike your use of clearly to apparently describe what appears to me to still only be speculation), the judge didn’t hear anything that made him feel even remotely obligated to deny bail (or require an ankle monitor) to someone otherwise charged with multiple serious / violent felonies (albeit, through a principal theory that seems to be barely hanging by a thread). That alone, given all other co-defendants are in jail pending trial, should make you seriously question whether the evidence presented at the hearing was persuasive to an objective fact-finder. The judge expressed his doubts on the record, only initially finding the minimum bar of probable cause to bring charges, which is nowhere close to the standard for establishing guilt.
Personally, I’d be surprised if this case ever even reaches trial. At this point, the prosecutor’s office probably just wants to figure out how to save face while pursuing charges against the co-defendants who are much more directly and credibly implicated.
Finally, by all accounts Arnold has otherwise conducted himself professionally and responsibly on and off the field. His character witnesses are practically unimpeachable.
Just my 1/2 cent, anyway…
i hope you are right for his sake. my clearly comment was connecting the dots when the team was 100% supporting him to when the team cut him after evidence was presented and charges were made. this has nothing to do with whether he is innocent or guilty but rather what he told the team
Or the team could have just decided they didn’t want any distractions after they realized he was facing eight felony charges. The timing of the release doesn’t make clear to me whether the substance of the hearing had much if any impact. It was only about a week between when he was charged and when he was released. It’s not like the first hearing was going to exonerate him (yet it came pretty damn close). But the hearing made everything real.